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On this episode of Ghost Hunters, Jason and Grant tackle a Seattle case that strikes an emotional chord with the team.

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It must be hard to be that young and lose your mom.

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I can't really think of much more turmoil for someone to go through at that age.

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Is there a menacing spirit plaguing this family or has a loved one come back to say goodbye?

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Damn that little girl boy.

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Whoa. Wow, look at that.

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Wow.

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Then, Taps conducts the first ever paranormal investigation of the 100-year-old Moore Theatre.

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This is fresh territory.

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If there are entities in here, we could catch them by surprise.

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Will a century's worth of the supernatural prove to be too much for the team?

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What was that?

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Did you see a light right there?

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Whoa.

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Hey, Donna.

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Hey, guys. How you doing?

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Good. What's going on?

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I have a great case here.

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This woman really, really needs our help.

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Her name is Krista Gibbons, and her family is going crazy.

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They live outside of Seattle, Washington.

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I know it's not next door, but...

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What's going on?

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Krista's sister, unfortunately, died.

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So they took in her daughter, their niece.

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Right after she moved in, it was like opening Pandora's box.

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Loud thumbs, lights flicker on and off.

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Krista has a great family.

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They've been off.

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Krista has seen a black, limbless figure walk across the room.

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Holy cow.

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So she was terrified.

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Absolutely terrified.

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Now, did she sound flighty at all?

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Or was she grounded in?

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She sounded very stable and grounded.

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She sounded like she had her wits together.

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They just want to find answers.

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They want to know, is this the aunt?

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Is she still hanging around and trying to make it known that she's still here

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and she approves of the family looking over her daughter?

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They're really freaked out.

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Well, let's get out there.

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Okay.

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Tell them we'll get their SAP.

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Any time a child's involved, the case takes main priority over all other cases.

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His children are so innocent, you always want to make sure nothing negative is happening to them.

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I think this case requires a little bit more sensitivity.

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It's different in the fact that we have a girl there whose mother just passed away.

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The fact that that might be her at the place and that's causing concern,

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it shows that there's obvious misunderstanding going on there.

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Because in all of our history, you don't get a deceased loving mother come in and terrify a family.

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All right, Stevie, just remember this case is a very sensitive case with this child.

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We lost your mom.

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She's trying to give you a heads up on that.

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I think it's really terrible to hear someone so young losing their mom.

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Must be pretty traumatic for her.

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She was everything to this girl, so let's just try it lightly.

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We're just about there, man.

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Sounds good.

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All right, here we are.

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Hi, we're Taps. Here to help. Hi, I'm Jason from Taps.

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Hi, nice to meet you. Please come in.

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My sister died in 2004.

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Her daughter came to live with us and since she has moved into the home

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and she's brought me on the urn that has my sister's ashes in there,

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we have noticed an increase in activity.

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I would like if Taps can find proof that we do have a spirit.

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It is my sister.

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So what kind of things are going on?

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I just know what my sister's gone through.

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So what kind of things are going on?

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Lots of strange noises, thumping sounds, things that we can't explain.

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What's the general feel of the events?

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Is it scary, threatening?

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Creepy.

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You want to show us where these things have happened?

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Sure.

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And I will start in the kitchen.

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One evening, my son was sitting here, my husband was in this chair over here.

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And suddenly, we both saw this ball of lightage

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And we both stopped talking and we looked at each other

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and we thought, what is that?

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I made the heads of my arms stand up.

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So where else?

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Upstairs, where there seems to be a lot of activity as well.

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This is our bedroom.

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OK.

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The activity that has occurred in here

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is we can hear a man and a woman's voice coming

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through the vent after everyone has gone to sleep.

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I've tried to see if it's a neighbor.

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Is it discernible words?

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No.

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You can hear a female.

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You can hear a male.

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So in the bathroom area, I have exited the bathtub.

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And when I looked up, I saw a big black shape.

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And it went all the way to the floor.

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And you could tell her head, shoulders went all the way down.

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And it faded as it went to the floor?

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Yeah, just faded down.

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When I looked up again, it was gone.

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So what kind of activities happened up here?

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Lots of footsteps, people running up and down the stairs.

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OK.

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And then one seems to be there.

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Wow.

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Right over here by the bathroom, my daughter

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has witnessed a black shape that she cannot explain.

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In the corner of the room is my sister's urn.

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Interesting.

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Do you feel there's any connection

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from the phenomenon to the urn?

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I believe so, just because the activities seem to have picked

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up since my niece moved in, which that is her mother in urn.

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All right.

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I definitely feel that my mom is trying to contact us.

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We will see her face kind of appear in a wall.

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We hear door slam, lights turning on and off.

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We're really freaked out.

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We seriously got goosebumps from it.

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Before I go to bed every night, I always tell her that I love her.

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At any time there's some sort of emotional attachment.

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In this case, we have an actual urn

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that has the remains of a little 12-year-old's mother.

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And that is what a lot of the activity centered around.

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So that creates a strong bond between the location

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and between someone that has passed.

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Now we're in the upstairs family room where the urn is.

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Actually, that camera looks pretty good, Steve.

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Move on to the next.

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We have had cases before where there's been an urn involved

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with a loved one.

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And it's always interesting.

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There is almost always activity around it

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if there is activity at all in the house.

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We've had situations where it's almost like there's

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something unresolved with that person whose

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remains are in the urn.

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All right, so everything's up.

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We're ready to go.

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Yeah, everything's gone.

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We've got it all covered.

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That's it.

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Let's go.

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Let's go.

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I'm going to check out this living room area.

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That's where the urn is.

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I can't even imagine losing my mother.

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Supposedly she's up here.

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So maybe we can make some type of contact.

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There is an apparition up here.

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I see this floating black mass.

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It's pretty much an apparition in the whole house

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and also a lot of voices.

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I'm going to do some EVP work in here.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Is there anyone in here with us?

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If you're here, can you please give us

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a sign of your presence?

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What's your name?

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Let's be hard to be that young and lose your mom.

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Mm-hmm.

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If you hear anyone else to leave,

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just knock on the wall twice and we'll leave.

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Jada.

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What?

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Did you hear that?

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What?

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Sound like a footsteps.

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I did.

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Yeah.

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Thought I heard.

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Chris and I were investigating upstairs

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where the urn is.

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All of a sudden we hear what sound like footsteps.

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Sound like a girl voice.

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Come over there.

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There like a, uh.

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And also this grunting growling noise.

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Steve?

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Hey, Steve?

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Tango.

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At one point I called down to Steve to see if it was him

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making the noises.

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I just thought I heard a footsteps.

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Coming from down here?

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No, like from the stairs.

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I haven't heard anything.

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I haven't moved.

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And then we both heard.

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It sounded like a woman's voice.

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I didn't hear any voices either.

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OK.

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I'm opening this thing up.

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You want me to head downstairs and make some noise

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and see just how clear you can hear it?

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Yeah.

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OK.

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All right, Jay.

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Can you hear me?

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I can hear you.

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But you're really low.

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I can hear you too, but it's really muffled.

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You want me to go outside and see if you're here

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through the window?

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Yeah.

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All right, man.

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I'm outside.

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I'm talking pretty normal out here.

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I'm talking to you.

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I'm talking to you.

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I'm talking to you.

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I'm talking to you.

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I'm talking to you.

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I'm talking to you.

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I'm talking pretty normal out here.

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This is me by the neighbor's yard.

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So if you can hear me.

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Jay, I hear you coming through the window, not the vent.

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How clear was it?

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Very muffled.

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I could barely hear you.

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Master bedroom.

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She's seen supposedly apparition voices.

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I wonder if there is some sort of hill that

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when cars come down.

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And you remember when we investigated the Palladium

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in Worcester, Mass?

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The light would come in among the windows

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and literally hit a tin can and made all this light bounce

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around the whole place.

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Jeez.

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Let me see what the light looks like coming in here.

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See, on the other side of those trees, that's a street.

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Hey, guys.

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There's a certain bend in the road where her bedroom is,

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which tells us that headlights can make it to the house.

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Well, you know, I could take the Yukon

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around the block a few times, and then

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we could see what it looks like.

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That's a good idea.

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We'll see what they bounce around, if anything.

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Do you want me to stay in the kitchen?

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Because didn't you say she saw it in the kitchen too?

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Yeah, why don't you stay in the kitchen?

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Steve, you guys, that was just, you walk your way.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Hey, Grant, we're about to go into the master bedroom

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right now.

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All right, we're going to turn around

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and let you know when we're coming.

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OK, there you are.

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I see him.

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And here I go.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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The light came through this picture window perfectly

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and actually hit a glass picture that's hanging on the wall.

271
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Go down here.

272
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Go back up.

273
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We're going to head back, and we're going to try to get it.

274
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And I'm going to come around that corner with the high beams

275
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on.

276
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So tell me if it reflects through anything.

277
00:10:31,780 --> 00:10:32,680
All right, here we go.

278
00:10:35,780 --> 00:10:38,160
Yeah, Jay, I got lights shining through this room,

279
00:10:38,260 --> 00:10:39,420
shadows moving.

280
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You could say, hey, you know, it's definitely

281
00:10:41,060 --> 00:10:42,160
car driving by.

282
00:10:42,260 --> 00:10:44,160
But if you're seeing this out of your peripheral vision,

283
00:10:44,260 --> 00:10:46,540
and you're in a situation where you think your house is haunted

284
00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,300
and you don't try to debunk things,

285
00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,320
that very well could be what she's seeing.

286
00:10:50,420 --> 00:10:52,020
Maybe we might be on something.

287
00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,900
I'm parking, Steve.

288
00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:54,700
Excellent.

289
00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:55,660
That was a good idea, guys.

290
00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,700
How are you getting?

291
00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,360
Yeah, we come up with one or two here and there.

292
00:10:58,460 --> 00:11:00,900
Ha ha ha.

293
00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,300
One or two.

294
00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,400
Cool.

295
00:11:03,500 --> 00:11:05,540
That certainly gives us a little more to think about.

296
00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,740
The only thing is, she saw a black mass.

297
00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,140
Not a shadow.

298
00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,480
That's the major conflict right there.

299
00:11:13,580 --> 00:11:14,380
Hmm.

300
00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:15,380
Hmm.

301
00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,760
Right here is where they saw the apparition.

302
00:11:20,860 --> 00:11:23,600
The kid was there doing dishes.

303
00:11:23,700 --> 00:11:24,800
Mm-hmm.

304
00:11:24,900 --> 00:11:28,400
When he looked in the glass, saw a reflection behind him

305
00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:30,540
of a person, and he ran upstairs.

306
00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:31,400
Go behind me.

307
00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,840
Can you see me from there?

308
00:11:35,940 --> 00:11:37,380
I don't see anything.

309
00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,040
How about closer?

310
00:11:40,140 --> 00:11:41,380
Can't even see him.

311
00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,480
I don't know.

312
00:11:42,580 --> 00:11:44,120
This one isn't so easy to debunk.

313
00:11:44,180 --> 00:11:45,740
How do you explain the footsteps?

314
00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,240
It's a carpeted stairway.

315
00:11:47,340 --> 00:11:49,240
It doesn't have any heating lines running under it.

316
00:11:49,340 --> 00:11:50,780
There's no basement.

317
00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,780
As we're investigating, we realize

318
00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,320
that it was becoming more and more difficult to truly debunk

319
00:11:55,420 --> 00:11:56,620
these claims.

320
00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,020
And we weren't having really any personal experiences.

321
00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,920
And then it hit us really fast.

322
00:12:02,020 --> 00:12:02,920
Wait a minute.

323
00:12:03,020 --> 00:12:04,360
This is a young girl.

324
00:12:04,460 --> 00:12:06,260
And she's not here.

325
00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,560
We're not getting any personal experiences.

326
00:12:08,660 --> 00:12:11,600
We got a house that activities are doing.

327
00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:14,480
We got a house that activity kicked up

328
00:12:14,580 --> 00:12:16,640
when a teenage girl moved in.

329
00:12:16,740 --> 00:12:19,340
They had activity prior, but it was weak.

330
00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,840
But there was another teenage girl who was living there.

331
00:12:21,940 --> 00:12:23,940
So now they got two teenage girls.

332
00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,580
They got a lot of activity.

333
00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,620
You know, maybe we're dealing with a poltergeist-style haunting.

334
00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,820
I could answer a lot of questions

335
00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,720
why there's always activity when the girls are here.

336
00:12:31,820 --> 00:12:33,220
So do you think because the girls aren't here,

337
00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,720
maybe the activity died down?

338
00:12:34,820 --> 00:12:37,020
That's the whole way the whole poltergeist thing works.

339
00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,520
But a girl usually manifests the activity.

340
00:12:39,620 --> 00:12:40,720
Without knowing she'd do it.

341
00:12:40,740 --> 00:12:44,680
What we need to do tomorrow is send you to the local library

342
00:12:44,780 --> 00:12:47,220
and find out what kind of mineral composites

343
00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:48,720
are high in this area.

344
00:12:48,820 --> 00:12:50,820
See if there's high limestone, there's iron,

345
00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,020
or something like that.

346
00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,060
A poltergeist-type case usually involves high limestone

347
00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,320
deposits in the area.

348
00:12:56,420 --> 00:12:58,060
All that stuff can be highly conducive.

349
00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,500
It's usually to do with some kind of angst and turmoil

350
00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:01,640
as well.

351
00:13:01,740 --> 00:13:03,440
Can't really think of much more turmoil for someone

352
00:13:03,540 --> 00:13:06,540
to go through at that age than losing their parent.

353
00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:07,740
We've got a lot of evidence.

354
00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,240
We need to go over the next few days.

355
00:13:09,300 --> 00:13:10,960
I'm thinking it's about time we just break it down,

356
00:13:11,060 --> 00:13:11,900
call it a night.

357
00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:12,700
OK.

358
00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:13,700
All right, let's do it.

359
00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:14,500
Night's on.

360
00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:15,640
Let's go.

361
00:13:15,740 --> 00:13:17,980
The more and more we try to figure out the ending

362
00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,040
by this house, the harder it got, hopefully the evidence

363
00:13:21,140 --> 00:13:23,080
we've recorded will give us some answers.

364
00:13:23,180 --> 00:13:25,380
So we'll go through that with the fine-tooth comb

365
00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,180
and see if we come up with anything for these guys.

366
00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,580
We're hoping that we're able to gather some closure

367
00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:34,420
or at least some assistance for Krista and the rest

368
00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,120
of the people in this house.

369
00:13:36,220 --> 00:13:37,320
Hey, Krista.

370
00:13:37,420 --> 00:13:38,800
What we're going to do over the next few days

371
00:13:38,860 --> 00:13:40,420
is go over the evidence we've gathered here

372
00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,260
and see if anything turns up, then we'll get back with you.

373
00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:43,260
Thank you.

374
00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:44,160
Call us if there's any problems.

375
00:13:44,260 --> 00:13:44,960
I will.

376
00:13:45,060 --> 00:13:45,860
Get some sleep, OK?

377
00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:46,860
OK, thank you.

378
00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,660
I'm very appreciative that Taps came out

379
00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,440
and investigated our home.

380
00:13:50,540 --> 00:13:52,400
I would like if Taps could find proof

381
00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:53,400
that we do have a spirit.

382
00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:54,540
It is my sister.

383
00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,340
I'm really hoping.

384
00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,140
Annabelle, she's 12.

385
00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,740
Me having a 12-year-old, I know exactly what it's like.

386
00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,880
Yeah, 12 years old and going through that already,

387
00:14:02,980 --> 00:14:04,120
that's not cool.

388
00:14:04,220 --> 00:14:07,280
I can't imagine losing either of my parents at young.

389
00:14:07,340 --> 00:14:09,300
Well, let's just keep our hearts open to her

390
00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,780
and the rest of the family and let's just

391
00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,300
figure out what's going on.

392
00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:13,200
Good job.

393
00:14:13,300 --> 00:14:13,980
Yeah, it's a good job.

394
00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,640
Good job.

395
00:14:15,740 --> 00:14:17,740
We'll get back to the hotel and crash.

396
00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:18,740
In that order.

397
00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:19,580
Yes.

398
00:14:26,180 --> 00:14:27,380
We're getting ready to review the evidence

399
00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,480
for the Gibbons house.

400
00:14:28,580 --> 00:14:29,720
We have DVR to watch.

401
00:14:29,820 --> 00:14:31,120
We have many DVs.

402
00:14:31,220 --> 00:14:33,120
We ran a lot of digital recorders that night,

403
00:14:33,220 --> 00:14:35,460
and we also have wireless audio.

404
00:14:35,540 --> 00:14:37,040
We're going to be looking at the evidence closely

405
00:14:37,140 --> 00:14:39,240
for things like apparitions, voices,

406
00:14:39,340 --> 00:14:40,600
and different noises that we're really

407
00:14:40,700 --> 00:14:43,000
going to pay attention to and see if we can find.

408
00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:44,340
I'm going to start with the DVR.

409
00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:45,240
OK.

410
00:14:45,340 --> 00:14:47,140
And since I'm on DVR, I'll take care of wireless audio.

411
00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,040
All right.

412
00:14:48,140 --> 00:14:49,240
Well, Tango and I get ready to review the evidence

413
00:14:49,340 --> 00:14:50,340
of the Gibbons house.

414
00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:51,540
Chris is going to go over to Town Hall

415
00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,140
and do some research on the Gibbons property.

416
00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,380
Steve, did you just find something?

417
00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,320
There is somebody in this room, and it's me.

418
00:14:58,420 --> 00:14:59,920
Uh-huh.

419
00:15:00,020 --> 00:15:00,820
Did you see that up there?

420
00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,420
Oh, yeah.

421
00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,280
But the way it dissipates is almost like a fog or a mist.

422
00:15:06,380 --> 00:15:07,380
That is weird.

423
00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,280
So I'm going to bring this image to Jason Graham.

424
00:15:09,380 --> 00:15:10,080
OK.

425
00:15:10,180 --> 00:15:11,080
So if you think about it.

426
00:15:11,180 --> 00:15:11,980
Cool.

427
00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,820
Steve, this is when me and Chris were upstairs.

428
00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:19,760
Now, hold on.

429
00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,000
I don't think that's anything.

430
00:15:25,100 --> 00:15:26,000
Really?

431
00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:27,000
OK, cool.

432
00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,840
Oh, Steve, I think I might have caught.

433
00:15:29,940 --> 00:15:31,840
Well, you tell me what you think it says.

434
00:15:31,940 --> 00:15:33,880
You and Chris in the family room,

435
00:15:33,980 --> 00:15:35,280
you were talking about the mother

436
00:15:35,380 --> 00:15:36,940
and trying to figure out what her name was.

437
00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,180
You say, what's your name?

438
00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:40,580
Listen.

439
00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,020
Can you tell us your name?

440
00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,020
Yeah.

441
00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,520
There's something there.

442
00:15:44,620 --> 00:15:46,120
There's a voice there.

443
00:15:46,220 --> 00:15:48,520
This is one we definitely have to bring to these guys.

444
00:15:48,620 --> 00:15:50,020
That could be our evidence.

445
00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,400
OK.

446
00:15:51,500 --> 00:15:53,100
So we're going to go to the living room.

447
00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,000
OK.

448
00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,400
Steve, look at this.

449
00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:57,740
Remember when me and Chris were upstairs

450
00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,900
and you were down in the living room holding the mini-DV?

451
00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,540
I don't know what this is, but it looks like a black mask

452
00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:04,540
to me.

453
00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:05,840
This is freaky.

454
00:16:05,940 --> 00:16:07,980
Well, why don't we put it on our big screen here?

455
00:16:11,780 --> 00:16:13,620
Here it comes.

456
00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,020
Well, now it's that.

457
00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,520
I might have something.

458
00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,400
Hey.

459
00:16:25,500 --> 00:16:26,400
Hey, guys.

460
00:16:26,500 --> 00:16:27,500
What's going on?

461
00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:28,900
What we got, gentlemen and lady.

462
00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,600
And we came out with some interesting things

463
00:16:30,700 --> 00:16:32,200
to let you guys see and listen to.

464
00:16:32,300 --> 00:16:34,540
The first thing I have here is on the DVR.

465
00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:35,740
And you know how we do it.

466
00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,880
We do kind of the least impressive first.

467
00:16:37,980 --> 00:16:38,880
So don't.

468
00:16:38,980 --> 00:16:41,480
This is the light on the ceiling?

469
00:16:41,580 --> 00:16:42,380
Yeah.

470
00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,220
To me, it does look like just a reflection of sorts.

471
00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,020
But the ceiling time that happens that way.

472
00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,460
Could that be the light reflecting

473
00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,020
from a car coming up the street through the back door?

474
00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,100
When I was down there, I didn't know what to do.

475
00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,200
I didn't see anything light-wise coming through the windows.

476
00:16:54,300 --> 00:16:56,000
I'm willing to bet that it's an IR light.

477
00:16:56,100 --> 00:16:57,600
And you can actually see it's circular.

478
00:16:57,700 --> 00:16:59,000
It's just a light on the ceiling,

479
00:16:59,100 --> 00:17:00,800
so it doesn't really hold much merit.

480
00:17:00,900 --> 00:17:02,900
We have some interesting audio stuff.

481
00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,000
Let's hear it.

482
00:17:04,100 --> 00:17:07,340
This is EVP work upstairs, Chris and I.

483
00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,140
And this was in the room where the urn was.

484
00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,140
All right.

485
00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,620
And you actually hear me ask, what is your name?

486
00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,720
Can you tell us your name?

487
00:17:13,820 --> 00:17:14,720
Let's highlight that.

488
00:17:14,820 --> 00:17:15,720
I'm Chris.

489
00:17:15,820 --> 00:17:16,720
Chris.

490
00:17:16,820 --> 00:17:17,520
Chris.

491
00:17:17,620 --> 00:17:18,520
Chris.

492
00:17:18,620 --> 00:17:19,520
Chris.

493
00:17:19,620 --> 00:17:20,520
Chris.

494
00:17:20,620 --> 00:17:21,420
Chris.

495
00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,440
Let's highlight that spot.

496
00:17:22,540 --> 00:17:23,440
A little bit.

497
00:17:23,540 --> 00:17:25,280
Music playing.

498
00:17:29,380 --> 00:17:31,120
Sounds like it's a female voice.

499
00:17:31,220 --> 00:17:32,920
You can hear the CH in the beginning.

500
00:17:33,020 --> 00:17:35,160
The tango's able to make a word out of there.

501
00:17:35,260 --> 00:17:37,360
Perhaps, what did you think it was?

502
00:17:37,460 --> 00:17:38,900
It sounds like Chesney.

503
00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,400
Music playing.

504
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,000
Chesney.

505
00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:49,000
That's interesting.

506
00:17:49,100 --> 00:17:50,340
Is that all we got?

507
00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,560
Well, we have something pretty cool on the mini-DV.

508
00:17:53,660 --> 00:17:55,700
There's a moment when I have the camera downstairs,

509
00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,100
and I think I was kind of getting up off a couch.

510
00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,840
So my natural motion is this.

511
00:17:59,940 --> 00:18:01,540
And as the camera comes up a little bit,

512
00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,740
you see a shadow kind of look a little out of place.

513
00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:05,780
Let's do it.

514
00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,420
Right.

515
00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,480
Right there.

516
00:18:08,580 --> 00:18:09,220
Wow.

517
00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,280
Go back.

518
00:18:14,380 --> 00:18:14,820
Wow.

519
00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:15,520
Look at that.

520
00:18:15,620 --> 00:18:16,920
Go back a couple frames.

521
00:18:17,020 --> 00:18:18,660
Because that had solid mass to it.

522
00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,460
Watch.

523
00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:20,260
Right there.

524
00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:21,340
That's a foot?

525
00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,460
No, it's not a foot, Grant.

526
00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:23,960
Go back just a hair.

527
00:18:24,060 --> 00:18:25,500
Honestly, it looks female.

528
00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,600
Yeah, you know why?

529
00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:28,500
Because it looks like there's hair draping down.

530
00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,800
Oh, he might have caught something on that one, Steve.

531
00:18:30,900 --> 00:18:31,840
Wow.

532
00:18:31,940 --> 00:18:33,440
That would be something for us to show them.

533
00:18:33,540 --> 00:18:35,340
What did you find on doing that research?

534
00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,440
Well, I was able to go down to the local museum,

535
00:18:37,540 --> 00:18:40,380
and I met with two local historians.

536
00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,680
They said that the whole town was a mining town for about 100

537
00:18:43,780 --> 00:18:44,480
years.

538
00:18:44,580 --> 00:18:45,480
What did they mine?

539
00:18:45,580 --> 00:18:47,820
Mainly coal, but also limestone and quartz.

540
00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:50,320
So did they give you an idea of how much limestone made up

541
00:18:50,420 --> 00:18:51,220
the area?

542
00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,320
4 inches to 4 feet.

543
00:18:52,420 --> 00:18:53,420
This is true to form.

544
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,920
An area with a lot of limestone.

545
00:18:55,020 --> 00:18:57,860
Most poltergeist type activities occur in areas

546
00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,120
that are in high limestone deposit areas.

547
00:19:00,220 --> 00:19:01,960
And that was just a shot in the dark the other night,

548
00:19:02,060 --> 00:19:03,720
because you got a bunch of girls living there.

549
00:19:03,820 --> 00:19:05,300
And it's good to see that we came up with some.

550
00:19:10,900 --> 00:19:11,400
Hello.

551
00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:12,100
Hi, Christa.

552
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:12,900
Hey, how you doing?

553
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:13,500
Hi.

554
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:14,400
Good.

555
00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:15,400
It's good to see you again.

556
00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:16,400
How you doing?

557
00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:17,000
Good.

558
00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:17,800
Nice to see you.

559
00:19:17,900 --> 00:19:18,320
How are you?

560
00:19:18,420 --> 00:19:19,440
What the taps found?

561
00:19:19,540 --> 00:19:20,340
It's exciting.

562
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,320
My heart's pounding a little bit.

563
00:19:22,420 --> 00:19:23,820
Christa, thanks for having us back.

564
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:24,820
Thank you for coming.

565
00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,380
We came in, and you had quite a few stories for us.

566
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,820
And some of the things we set about to debunk

567
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,620
were the apparitions, the shadows that you'd seen,

568
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,560
the voices coming up through the heater van,

569
00:19:34,660 --> 00:19:36,820
and the footsteps going up and down the stairs.

570
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,900
So we set up everything from digital video recording system

571
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,700
to wireless audio to digital recorders to thermal imaging.

572
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,000
And we'd formed an investigation

573
00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:46,100
throughout the whole night.

574
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,000
The footsteps.

575
00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:48,320
What would make that happen?

576
00:19:48,420 --> 00:19:49,700
Because typically under stairs, there

577
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,100
might be some kind of heating equipment

578
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,600
that could give that effect.

579
00:19:52,700 --> 00:19:55,160
Under the stairs is nothing but a storage area.

580
00:19:55,260 --> 00:19:57,100
Above the stairs is the central heating for the house.

581
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,840
There's the intake, which will allow any noise

582
00:19:59,940 --> 00:20:00,900
to go through there.

583
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,240
Does that really mean that that could be

584
00:20:02,340 --> 00:20:03,200
mistaken for footsteps?

585
00:20:03,300 --> 00:20:03,700
We don't know.

586
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:04,500
We never heard any.

587
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,480
We tried to recreate footsteps that night,

588
00:20:06,580 --> 00:20:09,080
and we weren't able to with anything in the home.

589
00:20:09,180 --> 00:20:10,080
OK.

590
00:20:10,180 --> 00:20:11,580
But next time you do hear footsteps,

591
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,480
if you can get over there and try and consider

592
00:20:13,580 --> 00:20:16,120
what's in the attic and see if that it could be from that

593
00:20:16,220 --> 00:20:16,720
or not.

594
00:20:16,780 --> 00:20:19,440
We weren't able to catch any balls of light that night.

595
00:20:19,540 --> 00:20:21,180
We were really hoping that we were able to.

596
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,180
Yeah, it was a thing.

597
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,280
Yeah.

598
00:20:23,380 --> 00:20:25,220
What we did try to do next is figure out

599
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,620
what would cause these voices that you're

600
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,620
hearing in your bedroom.

601
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,220
Jay sat up in the bedroom, and I came down and talked

602
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,320
and lived with him.

603
00:20:31,420 --> 00:20:32,720
We were able to actually communicate through the bed,

604
00:20:32,820 --> 00:20:33,960
which I'm sure you knew.

605
00:20:34,060 --> 00:20:36,160
But I know one of your claims was that you'd come downstairs

606
00:20:36,260 --> 00:20:37,200
and nobody would be there.

607
00:20:37,300 --> 00:20:39,700
We also tried doing it from the outside in to see

608
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:40,700
if it would bleed through.

609
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:41,940
Now, it's very unlikely.

610
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,100
Now, to try and figure out these shadows that you guys

611
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,580
have been seeing, one alternative

612
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,040
might be the occasional headlight of a car driving by.

613
00:20:49,140 --> 00:20:51,840
Jay and I went out while Steve was up in the room,

614
00:20:51,940 --> 00:20:53,340
and the headlights come right in,

615
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,980
which I'm sure you've seen before.

616
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,920
Maybe as you were getting out of the tub,

617
00:20:57,020 --> 00:21:00,320
someone walking up that sidewalk just as a car went by,

618
00:21:00,420 --> 00:21:02,360
you saw it, maybe the reflection of the headlight.

619
00:21:02,460 --> 00:21:03,320
It's a stretch.

620
00:21:03,420 --> 00:21:04,260
It was daylight.

621
00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:06,420
And I had my blind shed and my doors were closed.

622
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,320
OK.

623
00:21:07,420 --> 00:21:08,660
Just another thing we can't shoot now.

624
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,660
OK.

625
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,600
We did catch a few things that we would like to show you

626
00:21:11,700 --> 00:21:12,660
and get your impression on.

627
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:13,560
OK.

628
00:21:13,660 --> 00:21:14,660
OK.

629
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,880
So this one is video.

630
00:21:15,980 --> 00:21:18,780
This was a mini-DV camera that Steve was holding.

631
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,560
He was sitting on a couch.

632
00:21:20,660 --> 00:21:22,920
And as he got up, he didn't experience anything.

633
00:21:23,020 --> 00:21:24,560
But in review, something showed up.

634
00:21:24,660 --> 00:21:27,460
We want to show you that.

635
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:28,400
Here we go.

636
00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:39,340
All right, we'll go back a few frames and do it slowly for you.

637
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,240
OK.

638
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,240
It was only Steve in the living room.

639
00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:45,380
To me, the shadow almost looks feminine.

640
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,640
If you watch it close enough, see the normal shadow.

641
00:21:47,740 --> 00:21:48,780
Right there, you can see through.

642
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,840
Yeah.

643
00:21:49,940 --> 00:21:51,440
Keep an eye on this shadow and compare it in your mind.

644
00:21:51,540 --> 00:21:54,020
The shape, the consistency, also the direction

645
00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:55,120
that shadow is traveling.

646
00:21:55,220 --> 00:21:56,120
This one's going down.

647
00:21:56,220 --> 00:21:57,120
The other one's coming up.

648
00:21:57,220 --> 00:21:57,920
OK.

649
00:21:58,020 --> 00:21:59,020
So see how it's going down?

650
00:21:59,120 --> 00:21:59,820
Yeah.

651
00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:00,620
3 by frame.

652
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:01,320
Now watch.

653
00:22:01,420 --> 00:22:02,020
Boom.

654
00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:03,820
See how you can't see through it?

655
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:04,820
Wow.

656
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,900
It's strange because it pops up as you're

657
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,220
in the other shadows or down.

658
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,320
Exactly.

659
00:22:10,420 --> 00:22:11,720
And that matches what my daughter said she

660
00:22:11,820 --> 00:22:13,960
saw in that same area.

661
00:22:14,060 --> 00:22:14,960
We're on the same area?

662
00:22:15,060 --> 00:22:15,560
Yeah.

663
00:22:15,660 --> 00:22:16,360
She hit telling.

664
00:22:16,460 --> 00:22:17,260
OK.

665
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:18,760
So that looks similar to what you have experienced.

666
00:22:18,860 --> 00:22:19,600
Yes.

667
00:22:19,700 --> 00:22:21,300
And similar to what my children have told me

668
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,300
that they have experienced.

669
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,300
That's awesome.

670
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,440
We caught some audio that we'd like you to listen to and tell

671
00:22:26,540 --> 00:22:27,640
us what you think you hear.

672
00:22:27,740 --> 00:22:28,640
OK.

673
00:22:28,740 --> 00:22:30,840
Steve was trying to see if anything would make contact

674
00:22:30,940 --> 00:22:31,940
with them.

675
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,980
So they were asking a series of questions.

676
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,280
What's your name?

677
00:22:35,380 --> 00:22:36,280
I'm Steve.

678
00:22:36,580 --> 00:22:38,940
What's your name?

679
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,140
OK.

680
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,340
I'd like to hear it again if I could.

681
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:43,540
We can loop it for you.

682
00:22:47,140 --> 00:22:48,780
Are you familiar with the voice?

683
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:49,780
Vaguely.

684
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,020
I mean, I can't say that was her voice exactly.

685
00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:55,120
One of our investigators is the one who found this.

686
00:22:55,220 --> 00:22:58,060
And he believed that he kept on hearing the same thing popping

687
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:58,860
up.

688
00:22:58,960 --> 00:22:59,760
And he didn't know why.

689
00:22:59,860 --> 00:23:02,700
So he ended up contacting one of the other taps guys,

690
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,160
asking if anybody had heard a name, Chesney.

691
00:23:06,260 --> 00:23:09,760
And he was unaware at that time that, I guess,

692
00:23:09,860 --> 00:23:11,860
your sister's last name was originally Chesney.

693
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:12,760
Chesney.

694
00:23:16,060 --> 00:23:19,000
It almost sounded like Chesnut to me.

695
00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:20,100
Yeah.

696
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,740
And in the fourth grade, my niece's nickname was Chesnut.

697
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,240
Annabelle's nickname was Chesnut?

698
00:23:25,340 --> 00:23:26,640
It was Chesnut.

699
00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:27,640
Yes.

700
00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:30,280
And her last name was Chesney.

701
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,360
And this was caught in the room where the urn is.

702
00:23:33,460 --> 00:23:35,320
That would make sense.

703
00:23:35,420 --> 00:23:38,960
That shadow that we showed you, we don't know what it is.

704
00:23:39,060 --> 00:23:40,200
It looks like a female.

705
00:23:40,300 --> 00:23:42,600
And the EVP sounds like a female.

706
00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:44,460
It makes sense to me.

707
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:49,340
I feel it's probably her presence.

708
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,840
And I guess, would you say that's a possibility?

709
00:23:51,940 --> 00:23:52,840
It is a possibility.

710
00:23:52,940 --> 00:23:53,740
Yeah, of course.

711
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,840
OK.

712
00:23:54,940 --> 00:23:57,280
We are very grounded individualized as your whole family.

713
00:23:57,380 --> 00:24:00,820
So it's refreshing to have something to make sure

714
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,020
that that's how it is.

715
00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:03,880
If you're not a little crazy or anything like that,

716
00:24:03,980 --> 00:24:05,020
I know how it feels.

717
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,820
We've seen stuff ourselves, and you wonder what's going on.

718
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:08,620
Yeah.

719
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,420
That's validating.

720
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:10,720
Yes.

721
00:24:10,820 --> 00:24:13,700
We found that a lot of poltergeist type cases, which

722
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,800
is just a word for noisy spirit, comes in an area

723
00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:19,200
where there's a lot of limestone accords.

724
00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:20,740
So we did some research of the area

725
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,400
and found limestone accords deposits,

726
00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:25,040
4 inch to 4 feet thick.

727
00:24:25,140 --> 00:24:27,140
Poltergeist is a type of a haunting.

728
00:24:27,140 --> 00:24:28,100
OK.

729
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,940
It's usually manifested by a child, you know,

730
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,240
teenage and younger.

731
00:24:31,340 --> 00:24:34,040
The girls in the home somehow manifest the activity

732
00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:37,180
themselves through the high limestone accords deposits.

733
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,880
A lot of times in these situations,

734
00:24:38,980 --> 00:24:40,140
there are different possibilities

735
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,980
that these girls are unconsciously actually

736
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,220
creating this stuff.

737
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,180
And that's being magnified by what's in the ground.

738
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,060
Or they are acting almost like a beacon for things.

739
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,020
So both of those things could be going on.

740
00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:52,420
So very possibly the people who are

741
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,960
manifesting the activity themselves

742
00:24:55,020 --> 00:24:57,780
weren't here to manifest the activity for us.

743
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,560
And it was an extremely quiet night.

744
00:25:00,660 --> 00:25:01,860
It's not anyone's fault.

745
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,220
They're not doing it consciously.

746
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,320
It's not like they've got strange powers.

747
00:25:05,420 --> 00:25:06,400
And one thing we want to make sure

748
00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:08,560
is that they don't feel like it's their fault.

749
00:25:08,660 --> 00:25:09,560
No.

750
00:25:09,660 --> 00:25:10,800
Because we don't even know if it's them or not.

751
00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:12,200
It's a theory, OK?

752
00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:13,200
OK.

753
00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:14,940
We want to give you that information not to lay blame

754
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,300
or anything, but just to help you understand what's going on

755
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,340
so that that fear isn't there.

756
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,440
OK.

757
00:25:21,540 --> 00:25:22,580
And we're always here for you.

758
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,540
We're only a phone call away.

759
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,440
And you know that.

760
00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:25,860
If the activity picked up at all,

761
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,140
I would have no problem calling.

762
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,100
Not only that, but if you just have questions.

763
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,900
You know, you want someone to come in and sit down

764
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,200
and just get answers from them.

765
00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:34,100
Our phones are on.

766
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:34,800
Great.

767
00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:35,600
Thank you.

768
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:36,400
All right.

769
00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:37,300
Come on.

770
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,200
Let's go.

771
00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:39,140
All right.

772
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,140
Taps did a very good job.

773
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,240
I definitely feel better.

774
00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:42,940
Could it be her?

775
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,980
I think that it is my sister.

776
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,280
Jason said that he did hear Chestnut.

777
00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:51,720
And then knowing that that was my niece's nickname

778
00:25:51,820 --> 00:25:54,120
and knowing that Chesney is her last name,

779
00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:56,400
it made sense.

780
00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:58,300
And to me, it's too much of a coincidence

781
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,760
to not be able to say my sister's

782
00:26:00,860 --> 00:26:02,200
trying to communicate with us.

783
00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:05,700
So in that sense, it freaked me out.

784
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,600
But it's like I almost got tears because I feel like she's

785
00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:13,440
trying to communicate.

786
00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:19,320
We just want to prove if it is her that she's still here.

787
00:26:19,420 --> 00:26:20,780
And I think we found that.

788
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,380
So thanks.

789
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,520
Well, I definitely think it hit an emotional chord.

790
00:26:27,620 --> 00:26:31,360
The overwhelming feeling in her eyes was, I'm not crazy.

791
00:26:31,460 --> 00:26:32,460
Exactly.

792
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,100
I think that's what she was really hoping for.

793
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,260
And think of it this way, man.

794
00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:37,200
Seriously.

795
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:38,200
It's a haunting.

796
00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:40,800
If it is her sister, Annabelle's mom,

797
00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:41,900
is that a bad thing?

798
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:42,700
No.

799
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:43,500
It's a good thing.

800
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,300
Right.

801
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,200
Well, good job, man.

802
00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:45,700
Good job.

803
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:46,700
Onto the mix.

804
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,480
All right, guys.

805
00:26:52,540 --> 00:26:53,700
More theater, man.

806
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,640
So we're the first group in 100 years

807
00:26:55,740 --> 00:26:57,140
to be able to check this place out.

808
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,140
Nice.

809
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,180
So what are you guys looking to expect as far as activity?

810
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,980
There's people seeing full body apparitions,

811
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,780
lights, sounds, voices, doors opening and closing,

812
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,620
shadows, stuff like that.

813
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,420
All right, man.

814
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,560
That sounds good.

815
00:27:12,660 --> 00:27:13,320
It's going to be awesome, guys.

816
00:27:13,420 --> 00:27:14,060
Just get ready.

817
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:18,500
Nice big place, man.

818
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,700
Yeah, man.

819
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,300
We decided to invite Mike Dion up to help investigate

820
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,300
the Moore Theater.

821
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,900
The sheer size of this building, we

822
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,960
needed a couple extra investigators.

823
00:27:27,060 --> 00:27:28,960
So why don't you, Grant, and I head in?

824
00:27:29,060 --> 00:27:30,160
We'll go find out what we're up against.

825
00:27:30,260 --> 00:27:30,960
Come on.

826
00:27:31,060 --> 00:27:31,800
All right.

827
00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:41,940
Hi, Deb.

828
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,940
I'm Jason from TAPS.

829
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:43,940
Jason, nice to meet you.

830
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:44,840
Grace, how you doing?

831
00:27:44,940 --> 00:27:45,640
Grant, nice to meet you.

832
00:27:45,740 --> 00:27:46,440
Steve.

833
00:27:46,540 --> 00:27:47,380
Steve, welcome.

834
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,480
So interesting place.

835
00:27:48,580 --> 00:27:50,580
Fabulous place.

836
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,740
I wanted TAPS to come here because there

837
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,240
has been so many paranormal experiences

838
00:27:55,340 --> 00:28:00,140
that I want somebody else to experience this as well.

839
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,840
This is our main auditorium.

840
00:28:01,940 --> 00:28:02,740
Wow.

841
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,180
So what kind of things have happened up here?

842
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,140
Well, at night, I'd have to come back here

843
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,980
because I was usually the last person out.

844
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,880
And I would hit the light board.

845
00:28:09,980 --> 00:28:10,880
Lights would go off.

846
00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:14,020
And I saw something up on the fly rail

847
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:16,420
that resembled a woman in a ball gown.

848
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,720
This was in complete darkness.

849
00:28:17,820 --> 00:28:18,660
And you were able to see this.

850
00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:20,940
Was it emanating its own light?

851
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,040
Right.

852
00:28:22,140 --> 00:28:23,240
It was like a gown flowing.

853
00:28:23,340 --> 00:28:24,940
And the woman moved to the wall.

854
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,540
And she just walked right into the wall.

855
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,540
I had experience here once when I was house managing.

856
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,640
And I looked down the lobby towards a concession stand.

857
00:28:34,740 --> 00:28:38,380
And I looked and I saw this white figure float across.

858
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,960
It didn't really have any shape.

859
00:28:41,060 --> 00:28:41,760
And it wasn't solid.

860
00:28:41,860 --> 00:28:43,160
It was somewhat transparent.

861
00:28:43,260 --> 00:28:48,160
And I thought to myself, it's like, wow, it's kind of cool.

862
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,560
We often watch shows up here.

863
00:28:49,660 --> 00:28:51,360
And we sit on these ledges sometimes.

864
00:28:51,460 --> 00:28:55,040
And this is where you feel crowded when you're watching a show.

865
00:28:55,140 --> 00:28:57,000
There's always this pressure behind you,

866
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:59,740
trying to look out and see what's going on on stage.

867
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:00,940
Anything else up there?

868
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,340
When you're watching the show, sometimes it'll

869
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,880
sound like metal kind of clinking noise.

870
00:29:05,980 --> 00:29:08,020
Again, you kind of look over your shoulder.

871
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,380
And you don't see anything up here.

872
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,280
OK.

873
00:29:10,380 --> 00:29:13,280
All right, so where to now?

874
00:29:13,380 --> 00:29:16,520
This is an entrance into a steam tunnel.

875
00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:17,980
And there's been claims of the apparition

876
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,660
of a young boy seeing in and out of here

877
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,920
and in this whole corridor.

878
00:29:24,020 --> 00:29:25,160
All right, so what we're going to do from here

879
00:29:25,260 --> 00:29:27,260
is set up the equipment in all these areas

880
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,360
and start the investigation.

881
00:29:29,460 --> 00:29:30,260
Great.

882
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,700
You guys got a lot of work cut out for you.

883
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,600
So after you.

884
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:33,600
Let's go.

885
00:29:33,700 --> 00:29:36,640
I'm glad that nobody else has ever been allowed in here

886
00:29:36,740 --> 00:29:40,340
to monitor and experience and try to find the secrets

887
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,840
of the theater.

888
00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:45,080
Because I feel the TAPS crew has truly got their heart in it

889
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:47,400
and are looking to actually substantiate

890
00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:51,980
some of these paranormal experiences.

891
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,980
It's a real honor that Debbie and the Moore Theater

892
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,080
allowed TAPS to be the first group to ever do an investigation

893
00:29:57,180 --> 00:29:58,080
here.

894
00:29:58,180 --> 00:29:58,980
There you go.

895
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,320
We need to go stage up, get the catwalk.

896
00:30:00,420 --> 00:30:01,220
Yep.

897
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,620
We need to go balcony down, get the stage.

898
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,000
This is fresh territory.

899
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:07,760
If there are entities in here, they

900
00:30:07,860 --> 00:30:08,860
have no idea what to expect.

901
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,560
We could catch them by surprise.

902
00:30:11,660 --> 00:30:12,460
All right.

903
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,860
Pretty much all set, right?

904
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,000
Yeah.

905
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:16,080
We have some really good angles.

906
00:30:16,180 --> 00:30:17,740
That catwalk is covered, especially when

907
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:18,840
those lights are off.

908
00:30:18,940 --> 00:30:20,300
We'll see anything that goes on up there.

909
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,840
The stage view is awesome.

910
00:30:21,940 --> 00:30:23,780
We got the balcony.

911
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,580
The lobby.

912
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,580
The lobby.

913
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,180
And we have the basement hallway there

914
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,480
where the kid is seen.

915
00:30:28,580 --> 00:30:29,580
Let's go lights out, all right?

916
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,480
All right.

917
00:30:30,580 --> 00:30:31,580
Let's go lights out, all right?

918
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:39,820
All right.

919
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,860
So what could give the impression that there was a cold wind

920
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,960
or a hand?

921
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,840
Made in, you know.

922
00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:48,800
Grant and I decided to start our investigation

923
00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:51,000
in the basement where there's been claims of a little boy

924
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:52,200
that had been seen.

925
00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:54,640
Also, where one of the employees had the lights shut down

926
00:30:54,740 --> 00:30:57,380
on her and she felt something guide her hand to her door

927
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,480
not.

928
00:30:58,580 --> 00:30:59,880
Oh, this explains it all.

929
00:30:59,980 --> 00:31:01,320
Oh, we found it.

930
00:31:01,420 --> 00:31:03,720
Satan.

931
00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:05,520
There's no way they could be like a cold breeze,

932
00:31:05,620 --> 00:31:07,020
because this place is so stagnant.

933
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:07,720
It's ridiculous.

934
00:31:07,820 --> 00:31:08,820
Yeah.

935
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,460
It's just hot and muggy and the air does not move at all.

936
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,060
We use a thermal imaging camera.

937
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:15,100
It's got quite a few different viewing modes.

938
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,560
Some modes are better for actually detecting

939
00:31:17,660 --> 00:31:18,860
the temperature.

940
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,000
And some are better if you're really

941
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:21,940
trying to navigate and detect temperature.

942
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:22,840
Oops.

943
00:31:22,940 --> 00:31:23,900
Sorry.

944
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,680
I don't even see any vent.

945
00:31:27,780 --> 00:31:30,180
What's that hot spot over there?

946
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,080
Yeah?

947
00:31:35,820 --> 00:31:36,520
Just went away.

948
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,620
Something was there and then disappeared.

949
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,120
While we were down in the basement,

950
00:31:40,220 --> 00:31:42,420
we got a couple hits that we want to check out later.

951
00:31:45,220 --> 00:31:47,220
Want to check out that little crawl space?

952
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,220
Sorry.

953
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:53,540
Oh.

954
00:31:57,140 --> 00:31:58,940
This is where that boy is seen.

955
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,440
I should say in a lot of employees

956
00:32:00,540 --> 00:32:01,740
don't like to come in here.

957
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,340
They're not going to come in here.

958
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,540
They're not going to come in here.

959
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,560
I'm saying in a lot of employees don't like to come in here.

960
00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:08,940
A lot of employees are scared.

961
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,400
I don't see many bugs.

962
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:12,400
It's a good sign.

963
00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:13,300
Good job.

964
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,140
You know, for somebody who likes brighter,

965
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,940
she finds places that looks like they'd have a lot of them.

966
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:18,940
I know.

967
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:19,940
We have to, though.

968
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:20,980
As long as we don't sip it.

969
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,180
Whoa!

970
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,180
Oh, wait.

971
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,180
Tell me that metal mesh doesn't look like spider legs.

972
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,880
Yeah, it does look like a leg.

973
00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:30,620
Ooh, this goes for quite some ways.

974
00:32:30,620 --> 00:32:33,260
This is Dave Tango and Mike Dionne.

975
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,020
We'd really appreciate it if you'd come up and talk with us.

976
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,800
Can you please make a noise for us?

977
00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:42,460
It's hard for us to hear you or see you.

978
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,600
Just come closer to us so we can see you.

979
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,000
Can you let us know that you're here somehow?

980
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,980
Can you touch one of these?

981
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:54,880
No.

982
00:32:54,980 --> 00:32:55,780
No.

983
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,780
No.

984
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,580
No.

985
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,480
No.

986
00:32:58,580 --> 00:32:59,280
No.

987
00:32:59,380 --> 00:33:00,080
No.

988
00:33:00,140 --> 00:33:01,040
Can you touch one of us?

989
00:33:04,580 --> 00:33:05,680
Put your flashlight right there.

990
00:33:05,780 --> 00:33:07,080
Yeah, I just saw something.

991
00:33:07,180 --> 00:33:07,980
You did?

992
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,180
Did you just see a light right there?

993
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,180
What was that?

994
00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:24,360
Put your flashlight right there.

995
00:33:24,460 --> 00:33:26,760
Yeah, I just saw something.

996
00:33:26,860 --> 00:33:28,560
What was that?

997
00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:29,980
Did you just see a light right there?

998
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,020
What was that?

999
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,220
That's what I was saying.

1000
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,320
That was a light I saw.

1001
00:33:34,420 --> 00:33:35,420
I went that way, then I went that way.

1002
00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:41,700
That was like it looked almost to me like a little triangle

1003
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,800
going down.

1004
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:44,300
I definitely caught that.

1005
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,300
Oh, it was right there.

1006
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,000
I was looking right at it when it went.

1007
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:48,000
It was pointed right there.

1008
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:48,700
Right there?

1009
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,500
Oh, yeah.

1010
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,500
Pointed right there.

1011
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,040
Dave and I were sitting in the lower part of the balcony.

1012
00:33:53,140 --> 00:33:56,440
We both saw what looked like a vertical light going

1013
00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:59,660
across the our left side of the stage.

1014
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,460
What we're going to do is try to go downstairs

1015
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,500
and see if we can debunk it by recreating it.

1016
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,700
Tell me if you see anything.

1017
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,340
Anything?

1018
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,440
Nothing like what we saw.

1019
00:34:15,540 --> 00:34:16,440
No.

1020
00:34:16,540 --> 00:34:18,880
When you were doing that, there was barely any light even

1021
00:34:18,980 --> 00:34:19,780
coming over here.

1022
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,580
Really?

1023
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,380
Never mind bright light going up there.

1024
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,180
How about this?

1025
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,180
Wait, wait, wait.

1026
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,320
Can't be that.

1027
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,300
No.

1028
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,600
Well, I don't know, man.

1029
00:34:31,700 --> 00:34:32,860
I mean, I can't come up with anything.

1030
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,860
I can't either.

1031
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:34,760
You couldn't debunk it.

1032
00:34:34,860 --> 00:34:35,740
You couldn't recreate it.

1033
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,700
And we tried in many different ways.

1034
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,840
But now, all we can do is look at the evidence review

1035
00:34:42,940 --> 00:34:44,380
and see if we can find it in there.

1036
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,120
Let's go check out the box.

1037
00:34:51,220 --> 00:34:52,680
All right, so is it in here, G?

1038
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,860
Well, just in here, you feel pressure.

1039
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,760
Spooky.

1040
00:34:58,860 --> 00:34:59,860
Piking area.

1041
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,560
Well, not the spookiness, but the pressure.

1042
00:35:02,660 --> 00:35:05,000
It's like the air hasn't moved in years.

1043
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:05,900
Right.

1044
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,160
Just reading, see what we get.

1045
00:35:10,700 --> 00:35:12,700
It's right in the middle.

1046
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,600
Wow.

1047
00:35:13,700 --> 00:35:15,180
Heavy duty readings, man.

1048
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,340
Sometimes when people just feel creeped out in an area,

1049
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,120
we'll go in with our electromagnetic field detector

1050
00:35:21,220 --> 00:35:22,720
that we use, and we'll find that there's

1051
00:35:22,820 --> 00:35:24,180
a high electromagnetic field.

1052
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:25,820
Oh, look at this.

1053
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,960
Look at this.

1054
00:35:27,060 --> 00:35:28,420
Oh, man.

1055
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,220
Dude, all these cables?

1056
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,820
No wonder why.

1057
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,460
They're blown off the charts.

1058
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,060
We're able to come up with one alternative

1059
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,100
for the spooky feelings in the boxes.

1060
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,900
As soon as we went in there with our EMF detectors,

1061
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,100
the sucker went crazy.

1062
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,600
20 milligrafs.

1063
00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:47,480
Those are some heavy duty cables.

1064
00:35:47,580 --> 00:35:48,840
I think we found more than enough evidence

1065
00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:51,180
to high EMF-freaking effects in the psyche.

1066
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,920
I will definitely give you the paranoia.

1067
00:35:52,940 --> 00:35:55,380
High EMF fields can cause many different things,

1068
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,720
everything from nausea, paranoia, fatigue, skin irritation.

1069
00:35:59,820 --> 00:36:01,620
And a lot of times, people who have been feeling

1070
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:04,360
that they're being watched can be caused by high EMFs.

1071
00:36:09,820 --> 00:36:11,100
Well, you know what?

1072
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,840
If you want to head into the box, and I'll head into the audience

1073
00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:18,740
and just have a seat, and we'll see if we can hear, see,

1074
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,240
anything we can experience.

1075
00:36:20,340 --> 00:36:20,740
All right.

1076
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,440
Chris?

1077
00:36:24,540 --> 00:36:25,140
Yeah?

1078
00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:26,080
Here I am.

1079
00:36:26,180 --> 00:36:27,680
OK.

1080
00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:31,620
Is there anybody in here with us?

1081
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,360
We'd really love to hear from you.

1082
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,260
Chris, did you hear that noise?

1083
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,660
Yeah, I heard that.

1084
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,340
Where did it sound like it came from?

1085
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,640
Sounded in here, backstage.

1086
00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:49,700
I heard it.

1087
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,540
I heard it.

1088
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,200
Sounded in here, backstage.

1089
00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:54,500
If you are trying to communicate with us,

1090
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,700
can you make that noise again?

1091
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:02,240
All right, guys.

1092
00:37:02,340 --> 00:37:03,140
It's getting late.

1093
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:04,080
You know, it's time to wrap it up.

1094
00:37:04,180 --> 00:37:06,540
Let's break it down.

1095
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,520
Chris is coming along pretty good on the investigations.

1096
00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:11,280
We're a few investigations in now and been training her.

1097
00:37:11,380 --> 00:37:15,120
And she seems to be picking up stuff pretty good.

1098
00:37:15,220 --> 00:37:16,820
I'm really, really excited to check out

1099
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,060
what we have during analysis.

1100
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:23,720
Maybe we'll have a clearer answer to what that light was.

1101
00:37:23,820 --> 00:37:26,820
The TAPS crew was a delight to be with.

1102
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,200
I hope that they will find paranormal experiences

1103
00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:31,260
going on in this building.

1104
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:39,740
Hey.

1105
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:40,640
Hey, guys.

1106
00:37:40,740 --> 00:37:41,640
So what do we got?

1107
00:37:41,740 --> 00:37:42,640
What do you got, evidence?

1108
00:37:42,740 --> 00:37:43,740
Well, I guess.

1109
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,940
Camera four, there was maybe something.

1110
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:45,840
OK.

1111
00:37:48,940 --> 00:37:49,980
I don't know where they came from.

1112
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:50,880
Those?

1113
00:37:50,980 --> 00:37:51,880
Break down there.

1114
00:37:51,980 --> 00:37:55,260
That's Grant and I off to the left, isn't it?

1115
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,420
During that time, my flashlight kept going dead.

1116
00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,860
I kept on messing with it.

1117
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:01,860
You know, we're so often, it would turn on, it would turn off.

1118
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:02,760
I see.

1119
00:38:02,860 --> 00:38:03,960
So very possibly, it could have been us.

1120
00:38:04,060 --> 00:38:05,060
It could be that.

1121
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,300
Well, that's all we have on the DVR.

1122
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,500
We got some stuff on thermal.

1123
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,600
OK.

1124
00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:10,300
This is when you guys are down in the big room in the basement.

1125
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,540
OK, right into the stage.

1126
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:12,440
Yep.

1127
00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:14,340
And there's a lot I kind of found.

1128
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,900
Yeah, I remember seeing this.

1129
00:38:21,340 --> 00:38:22,640
Hey, guys.

1130
00:38:22,740 --> 00:38:24,980
This is when you guys are down in the big room in the basement.

1131
00:38:27,780 --> 00:38:29,920
Yeah, I remember seeing this.

1132
00:38:30,020 --> 00:38:32,080
Yeah, we wanted to look at that on the big screen.

1133
00:38:32,180 --> 00:38:34,420
Thing is, it just fades out.

1134
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,920
Could just be reflections.

1135
00:38:37,020 --> 00:38:37,920
So what else?

1136
00:38:38,020 --> 00:38:38,920
Any audio?

1137
00:38:39,020 --> 00:38:40,060
We didn't get anything on audio.

1138
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:40,960
No.

1139
00:38:41,060 --> 00:38:41,960
No.

1140
00:38:42,060 --> 00:38:42,960
No.

1141
00:38:42,980 --> 00:38:44,180
We didn't get anything on audio.

1142
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,080
All right, so is that it?

1143
00:38:46,180 --> 00:38:47,060
That's it, guys.

1144
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,360
What happened to the thing you and Lex saw?

1145
00:38:49,460 --> 00:38:50,420
Let me tell you.

1146
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,620
All right, I'm really, I'm sorry.

1147
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:54,360
I'm pissed about this because I was so excited.

1148
00:38:54,460 --> 00:38:57,500
I mean, I had my mini DV right on the spot.

1149
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,700
Let's take a look.

1150
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,900
It's really strange.

1151
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,700
The thing was bright as anything.

1152
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,700
And the camera did not pick it up.

1153
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,800
That's interesting.

1154
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:08,040
There have been times before when we've seen full body

1155
00:39:08,140 --> 00:39:09,740
apparition, you take a picture of it,

1156
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,040
and it just looks like mist.

1157
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:12,000
Huh.

1158
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:13,700
Yeah, sometimes your mind's able to decipher

1159
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,900
if the camera's not.

1160
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,500
I had no personal experiences.

1161
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,700
I really didn't either.

1162
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,100
And maybe there is something there.

1163
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,540
And maybe it just comes out once in a while.

1164
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:28,440
Hi, guys.

1165
00:39:28,540 --> 00:39:29,140
Good.

1166
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:30,140
Good to see you again.

1167
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:31,440
Good to see you.

1168
00:39:31,540 --> 00:39:33,620
We were able to cover pretty much all the important spots,

1169
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:35,620
almost the entire theater with our cameras.

1170
00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:38,020
We wanted to try and find evidence of the boy,

1171
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,420
the woman that you saw in the catwalk.

1172
00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:41,500
Yeah, pretty much any of the claims.

1173
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,500
Right down to the shadows, the voice is being heard.

1174
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,500
Great.

1175
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,500
It's all very exciting.

1176
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,300
So one of the hardest things, especially

1177
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,600
when you're investigating a theater,

1178
00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:51,700
is the acoustic issues.

1179
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,640
Because you could speak something at the very back

1180
00:39:53,740 --> 00:39:56,000
of the theater and hear it pretty much through the whole building.

1181
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:56,800
You know that.

1182
00:39:56,900 --> 00:39:57,700
You worked here.

1183
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,340
So you know, noises can't be trusted.

1184
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,940
No, noises can't be trusted.

1185
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,220
We did have a camera pointed up at the catwalks all night

1186
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,220
and caught no evidence of the woman.

1187
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,320
OK.

1188
00:40:06,420 --> 00:40:07,480
What we immediately set out to do

1189
00:40:07,540 --> 00:40:11,580
was to try and figure out the reason why the box is over there,

1190
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,120
why that was such a threat to a lot of people, why people just

1191
00:40:14,220 --> 00:40:15,320
didn't feel comfortable there.

1192
00:40:15,420 --> 00:40:19,280
What we'd like to do is take you up and show you the EMF fields

1193
00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:21,560
that are up there that are actually bleeding through.

1194
00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:22,360
Sure.

1195
00:40:22,460 --> 00:40:23,260
Let's do it.

1196
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,060
Come on.

1197
00:40:27,660 --> 00:40:30,560
In this area, you can see you have a lot of these cables.

1198
00:40:30,660 --> 00:40:31,460
Hm.

1199
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,500
I want to show you.

1200
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,400
Right now, that's not a technically a healthy level.

1201
00:40:36,420 --> 00:40:38,320
But a lot of it's coming in from outside.

1202
00:40:38,420 --> 00:40:40,200
In fact, if you want to come down, we'll go out in the alley

1203
00:40:40,300 --> 00:40:41,200
and I'll show you exactly.

1204
00:40:41,300 --> 00:40:42,000
Oh, jeez.

1205
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:42,700
Get ready for that.

1206
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,500
Oh, OK.

1207
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,460
Come here.

1208
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,600
Come right out here.

1209
00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:48,300
OK, conduit lines on the side.

1210
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,900
Watch how high it goes up with these.

1211
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,240
Yeah, look, already you're at in the 50s, 60s.

1212
00:40:52,340 --> 00:40:53,740
Whoa.

1213
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,540
Boom.

1214
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,440
Oh.

1215
00:40:55,540 --> 00:40:56,340
200.

1216
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,680
And you've also got that one over there, too.

1217
00:40:57,780 --> 00:41:01,720
So it explains a lot of where the feelings of paranoia

1218
00:41:01,820 --> 00:41:04,360
and a lot of other things might be coming from.

1219
00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:07,920
So it's just one thing that you want to look out for.

1220
00:41:08,020 --> 00:41:11,060
Yeah, I'll be looking across into that box from where

1221
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,720
I will be sitting in the good box.

1222
00:41:12,820 --> 00:41:13,720
Come on, let's have a go.

1223
00:41:13,820 --> 00:41:14,820
OK.

1224
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,060
There was one thing that happened, though.

1225
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,260
Two of our investigators were sitting out in the audience.

1226
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,200
And one was holding a video camera.

1227
00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:25,340
And we had a camera up high covering this whole space.

1228
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:30,040
And they saw a tall beam of light, which sounded similar

1229
00:41:30,140 --> 00:41:31,440
to what you had seen.

1230
00:41:31,540 --> 00:41:32,640
They both saw it.

1231
00:41:32,740 --> 00:41:33,940
They saw it very clearly.

1232
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,940
And they were able to point their camera in the right direction.

1233
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,760
But the camera didn't pick it up for whatever reason.

1234
00:41:38,860 --> 00:41:40,100
That's pretty interesting.

1235
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,400
So when it came down to the video and audio,

1236
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:43,440
we really lacked in that.

1237
00:41:43,540 --> 00:41:45,640
We ended up not catching anything.

1238
00:41:45,740 --> 00:41:48,740
We had hoped we had to help solidify your claims,

1239
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,840
but it just didn't happen.

1240
00:41:49,940 --> 00:41:52,380
But we can't come out and say, the place is haunted.

1241
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,380
We don't have any evidence to support those claims.

1242
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,420
But we really want to say thank you for having us out.

1243
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,620
I am thrilled that you ventured out to Seattle

1244
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:00,260
from the distance you did.

1245
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,360
You know, if again you passed through Seattle

1246
00:42:02,380 --> 00:42:04,620
and would have time to do another investigation,

1247
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:06,120
it would be a great thing.

1248
00:42:06,220 --> 00:42:06,820
Thank you.

1249
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:07,620
Welcome out.

1250
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:08,620
Let's get out of here.

1251
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:11,460
I think the answers that Jason and Grant gave me

1252
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,700
made a lot of sense to me and helped

1253
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,700
clarify some of the things that we've seen here

1254
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,900
at the Moore Theater.

1255
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,940
But I will always believe that there is something else here

1256
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,940
at the Moore Theater.

1257
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,140
She seemed like she understood why we were saying

1258
00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:26,240
what we were saying.

1259
00:42:26,340 --> 00:42:29,380
Yeah, I was really surprised how receptive she was to it all.

1260
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,440
She seemed very understanding with why we are drawing

1261
00:42:32,540 --> 00:42:35,840
the conclusion that we don't think at this time that we

1262
00:42:35,940 --> 00:42:36,940
could say the place is haunted.

1263
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:37,740
Sure.

1264
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:38,680
Oh, good job, brother.

1265
00:42:42,180 --> 00:42:44,280
On the next episode of Ghost Hunters,

1266
00:42:44,380 --> 00:42:46,480
Taps comes to the aid of a priest.

1267
00:42:46,580 --> 00:42:47,480
You're mess going crazy.

1268
00:42:47,580 --> 00:42:48,820
What the heck?

1269
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,360
You feel horrible and then you hear something moving.

1270
00:42:51,460 --> 00:42:53,020
That's a creepy place.

1271
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,400
Then the team investigates one of Rhode Island's most

1272
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:57,660
notorious haunts, Sprague Mansion.

1273
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,560
Put your hand behind me.

1274
00:42:58,820 --> 00:42:59,560
Feel the air.

1275
00:42:59,660 --> 00:43:00,460
Holy crap.

1276
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,420
It's moving towards the door.

1277
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,520
What the heck?

1278
00:43:03,620 --> 00:43:04,620
I felt something touch my leg.

1279
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:05,220
Shh.

1280
00:43:05,220 --> 00:43:06,220
Shh.